2018 Junior Inter-League Southern Area Final

The Southern Area final will take place at Sportpark, UEA, hosted by Norwich.

On Sunday 7th October.  Doors open at 12.30.

Clubs representing their leagues will be

LANE 1: Camden Swiss SC M11 League
LANE 2: Swim Bournemouth Southern League
LANE 3: Co Coventry SC Nuneaton & District
LANE 4: Co Norwich SC Eastern League
LANE 5: Co Derby SC Derby & Notts League
LANE 6: Winner of Milton Keynes League

Spectator and poolside passes are only available in advance, via your club.  Supporting files and documents for clubs:

The winning team will progress to the National Final on Sunday 25 November.

We wish Camden Swiss Cottage the very best of success in representing our League.


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2018 date of AGM

The date for our AGM has been booked for Thurday 15th November 2018.

This will take place as usual in the Blue Room, at the Latton Bush centre Harlow at 8pm.

Applications to join the league for the 2019 season should be sent to us before the AGM where they will be discussed and approved.

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2018 round 3 results

Wow hold onto your hats! What a result…

Firstly, huge thanks to everyone who took part in round 3. From my own experience and what I’ve heard, all galas went extremely well and our hosts aquitted themselves superbly. Great attention to detail. Teamsheets properly submitted and DQs entered in the spreadsheets.  As far as I can see, there’s no reason to doubt the provisional results even before I get the CTK slips.

Provisional files are up on the results page, with promoted and relegated teams highlighted in green.

What did I say about round III? Much of it was decided by rule 9.2c in the event of a tie on League points ranking is determined by gala points in the final round. (These rules pre-date my involvement).

In spite of a valiant effort from Basildon in all 3 rounds, Camden has indeed pipped them by just 15 gala points in the final (despite Basildon scoring more points over all). At the other end, Harlow pulled out a storming final round to beat the drop zone and pipped Monson by just two points (again despite scoring fewer overall gala points).

In Div2 new-comers NUEL did gain promotion; but Barking who we also welcomed back this year powered through to top the Division with Greenwich in a strong second.

It’s been a very exciting year. I’ll say it again: you all deserve huge credit because I’m sure this must be the most competitive Junior League in the South.

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2018 round 3 lane order

So, we’ve now had chance to verify 3 of the 4 galas from round two.  Div 1 is fully verified.  A typo was found in the results file from the Hillingdon gala which had robbed Camden of a win. This made a considerable difference as it had been so close between Camden and CoCSC so the League points were altered by these two clubs switching places.  Fortunately it makes no difference to which teams are in the final, as previously announced or my choice of hosts.

However the seeding for the lane draw round 3 at Basildon pool has changed considerably (see new fixtures page).

It also gives Camden a real fighting chance of overhauling Basildon to win the League. And there is still the chance that Thurrock or Chelmsford could win and that a strong showing from Barnet could affect these other teams.

There really is everything to fight for.  And the medals are extremly nice!

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Bit of a moan

Well, its a mix of positives and negatives really…

Host clubs have been fantastic; but we’ve had a few difficulties to handle, most often caused by the pool operators, and while we ARE taking steps, a bit more help from visiting clubs and parents will be useful:

Southbury Rd, Enfield was apparently dangerously over-crowded in the foyer and changing rooms. We are seeing this at all pools lately with operators not clearing out the public until the actual time of our warm up and we ARE going to do something about that; BUT if visiting clubs could please be reasonable about the time of arrival, particularly if you arrive very early by coach, there simply isn’t enough space in the foyers at Enfield and Braintree for 8 teams to hang about. Please try and stay out of the building until 20 minutes before warm up.

please do not abuse your hosts. You are not allowed into the changing area. If your 9 year old cannot get changed alone then honestly s/he is not yet ready to compete.

Team sheets:
this is really a mixed bag.  At Hillingdon, the gala I attended, I was very please to see that every club heeded my request and is using the team sheet template so we can see quickly if there are any over-age swimmers.

However, for round 2 the number of electronic teamsheets I have received, even now, I can count on one hand.  Just to let you know, I DO appreciate that your team changes even on the day, but there IS a reason for me asking for the electronic team sheet even if I only get it after the gala.  You see there is a line of code in Excel that allows me to specify one set of cells and compare it to another set, and in this way it’s quick to check whether all swimmers in the team sheet are in the eligible swimmers file you submitted at the start. I can only do this if I have electronic files.

I haven’t had all the paper work in yet, but I’ve heard that at least one club did not submit a paper team sheet on the day. Please note that rule 8.10 gives me the discretion to remove all of your points for that gala!

As far as I can tell, every club is behaving with impeccable honesty about declaring over age swimmers and only using eligible swimmers so I’m not going to act like some “jobsworth” over this, but I’m trying to introduce methods that prevent mistakes going un-noticed because a few points here or there do make a difference. With 26 clubs x all your swimmers, this is not something I can check by eye.

Let’s finish on a positive:
the level of  competition and the behaviour of all coaches, swimmers and volunteers has been outstanding. It particularly contributes to my own enjoyment of the league and gives me great pride in how you are helping to grow our reputation in the South East.

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2018 round three draw

Although the final gala points for round 2 are still provisional, we know enough to determine the draw for round three.  You will find this under our “fixtures” page.

Your hosts shall be

Basildon Phoenix – at BSV
Braintree & Bocking – at Freeport Braintree
Greenwich Royals – at Southbury Rd
Haringey Aquatic – at Barnet Copthall

Round 3 is a seeded gala based on your position in the league table, so the fixtures also show your lane draw.



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2018 round two results

A huge thank you to all our hosts for round 2.  Provisional results are now in. Wow it was close, with some teams finishing narrowly up on where they did in round one, changing the dynamic of the table and meaning it’s all to play for in the final round. League points are doubled for round 3, so whoever wins that gala has a chance of topping their division and that could be any one of 3 or 4 teams.

So I will be checking the paperwork very carefully when it actually comes in. An adjustment of just a few gala points could change the seeding and the dynamics; but from what I can tell it won’t change the League points for round 2, so I feel I know enough to determine the teams in each gala and inform the hosts of their duties.

In case you were affected, I’d just like to thank our hosts again for some of the issues they had to cope with at certain pools, where the equipment (or lack of it), condition, and behaviour of the pool operators fell below the standard we would expect. We are already taking steps to follow this up with Fusion Leisure.

Wherever possible the League will do what we can to ensure that an experienced referee is present at each gala and if possible a representative from the home club to help with preparation.

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2018 verified round 1 results

I have now received and checked all the Chief Time Keeper slips, DQ reports and team sheets for round one.

There was a very minor adjustment to gala points in Div1 which did not affect finish order or league points.  No change to Div2.

Uploaded files on the website now give FINA DQ numbers and explanations.


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2018 round two draw

I have sent out today the draw for round two.  This can also be seen on the Fixtures page of our website. The date is Sunday 20th May.

Your hosts for round two are:

Enfield – at Southbury Rd
Hillingdon – at Hillingdon Sports Complex
NUEL (with Halstead) – at Freeport Braintree*
Barking & Dagenham – at Basildon Sporting Village

Owing to London Regionals, it will be more difficult to find extra officials for round two. So please do you best to support your hosts when asked with any extras that you have.

*Please note: the newly published start times for each gala.  In particular start times at Braintree have been pulled forward from what was first published.  Hillingdon is also an early 1pm start.

Thank you

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2018 round 1 results

With much thanks to all the volunteers and officials involved… round 1 passed off extremely well.  Our swimmers all did us proud!

You will now find the results in our web pages. This year Div1 is going to be extremely close. Therefore it is right and proper that I work through all the paper work when it arrives in the post and there may be some adjustments to the gala points.

However I am confident that the overall positions and the league points will not alter.  Therefore I have published the draw for round two.  This is important, because it is only fair to give host clubs as much notice as we can.

One comment:
Not every club used my 2018 template for their team sheet.  Please, please do this for me in future.  It shows at a glance whether you are declaring any over-age swimmers and this, combined with my “checksum” column in the new 2018 results input spreadsheet helps eliminate any glaring errors and gives us a much better chance of getting the early results correct.

All the templates can be found on our “resources for host clubs” page. All the rules, all our policy documents… are all online.  Thank you.


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